The I Woulda Killed Him Deader Than You Did Debate

What’s a Christian to do when the political debate in the campaign for President of the United States descends to a question of who would have killed Osama bin Laden first and deadest?

Is this all these two candidates have to offer us? Is it what we can expect through the summer and fall as they slash and burn, trying to get themselves elected?

On the one hand, we have the president, who has attacked the Catholic Church and religious freedom. On the other hand, we have a man who appears to change his beliefs when it suits his ambitions, who, when he was governor of Massachusetts, signed into law a health care plan that actually used tax payer money to pay for abortions.

For the past few weeks, they’ve been tossing verbal grenades back and forth over the death of Osama bin Laden. President Obama was elected under something of a cloud four years ago. A lot of people thought he was a secret Muslim, that he would sell us out to Al Qaeda. Now, he points to the corpse of bin Laden and says, “See?”

Romney, not to be outdone, comes back with stout claims that he would have done the same thing if he’d had the chance, in fact, he would have done it sooner and meaner and, and, well, he would have killed bin Laden deader than dead, he would have killed him deadest.

Meanwhile, here I am, out on the Oklahoma prairie, trying to follow Jesus, trying to stand up for the First Amendment, trying, in the face of this barrage of unseemly non-squiturs and spin, to figure out what’s best for my country.

I love Jesus. I love my Church. I love America. I love my children and my family who will live out their lives in this country.

How do I be faithful to those four great loves and vote for either one of these guys?

Am I the only person in this country who’d like a better choice?

I know there are party loyalists, the yella dog Democrats and the die-hard Republicans, who would vote for anyone anytime who had a “D” or an “R” after their name on the ballot. I know also that some people hate the Catholic Church and its moral voice so much that they will throw the First Amendment under the bus if that’s what it takes to harm the Church. I know there are people who don’t care one way or the other about abortion.

But, I’m not one of them.

I’d like a president who had a center, beliefs and ideals, to see him through the challenges of the job. I’d like a president who honestly valued the lives of every person throughout their span of years, from conception to natural death. I’d like a president who respected the Constitution and religious freedom. I’d like a president who was grounded in a strong Christian faith.

These men are asking us to trust them with our country, with America. They’re asking us to put our lives, our futures and our children’s futures in their hands. It would be nice, in the course of this campaign, if they could elevate their discussion at least somewhat above the I woulda killed him deader than you did debate.



  1. Couldn’t agree more. At best it’s horribly unseemly. But then the view from the Nebraska prairie tend to be as long as that from the Oklahoma one.

    1. Maybe those of us in “flyover country” are just less easily hyped.

      1. There a whole lotta truth in that.

  2. Commenting from which WordPress doesn’t seem to want to switch to tonight: The choices aren’t any better in Canada. All levels and parties of government up here pride themselves on diversity and tolerance so that what’s left is secular relativism with no room for God. Tiring, isn’t it?

    1. Yes it is.

      BTW, I thought your blog on nurses who’ve been told to leave their religion at home when they voice objections to participating in abortions was great. Thank you for writing it.

  3. Noel Williams (prhayz) · ·

    Good read, but your post is full of hyperbole and rhetoric. This President has never attacked the Catholic Church. The matter you are referring to, was manufactured by some clever politician.

    Thanks a lot for sharing! May God bless you richly.

  4. Hi Noel!
    Thanks for your comment.

    What I am referring to is the HHS Mandate which requires the Church to either violate its moral teachings or face fines which would force it to close down its institutions. I am aware that the President moderated that a bit to require the Church to send people to someone else to violate their teachings, but I frankly don’t regard that as any real change from the original position. As far as I’m concerned, this IS an attack on the Catholic Church, and a very serious one. The only clever politician who manufactured this that I know of was President Obama himself, when he decided to push this mandate forward.

    I like your blog, btw. Good stuff there.


  5. The true answer to your first question (a good one by the way) is: Pray. Pray that we may be able to live a peaceful and quiet life (I tim 2:1-2) The Kingdom of Christ is not of this world, nor should we expect those outside the faith to defend it. It would be nice to have a Christian President or at least one who wouldn’t allow the erosion of Christian principles to continue but lacking that, choose the one who will do the least harm and vote for him. Pray for wisdom to choose that best candidate.
    This is a good blog but the first love comes first even if the rest of your loves are disintegration. Pray and then Vote. Outside of that, be the best servant of God you can be, read your Bible and follow its precepts.

    1. Steven, that’s good advice. Thanks.

  6. Obama, a professed Christian, will win a second term. God bless him well. He’ll need it.

  7. If I had to bet, I would bet that President Obama does win a second term. However, if I’ve learned one thing during the many times I’ve stood for election, it’s that elections are impossible to predict this far out. There’s a lot of water to swim across between now and November.

  8. Hi Rebecca,
    I couldn’t agree more. It seems that this time around, the only choice we have is the not Obama candidate or to vote none of the above. Thank you for stopping by my blog.
    God bless,

    1. I know. I’ve never considered NOT voting for one of the candidates before, but this time, I may.

  9. Hi Rebecca,
    While I really disagree with your politics on this post, I appreciate the tone (and the sarcasm about the bin Laden debate—I really don’t think retributive justice does anyone much good and this seems just silly). I also appreciate your reasoned, considerate thinking about faith and politics as you carry out your vocation as a representative.
    Many, many blessings.

    (Thanks for stopping by my blog, btw!)

  10. Thanks Pastor Lena! Your blog is great. I wish I knew how to put one together that’s so visually appealing.Thanks for stopping by.

  11. Garrick D. Conner · ·

    This is a profound post full of thought-provoking statements. Indeed we have an awful pair of candidates from which to choose. And on our choice hinges the future of our nation — and, yes, our children and grandchildren. I’m grateful that God is still on His throne. He is surprised by nothing. The reality is that the problems in our country and our world are too severe for any political engine to assuage. We must continue to be prayerful, faithful, and courageous in the face of an ever-darkening horizon. The upside to all this is that our lights shine brightest when conditions are dark and stormy. Thank you for using your voice for good.

  12. These are wise words. Thank you.

  13. It is much the same in the UK. Spin is really another word for lying, and so many of us are fed up being lied to. We all know that no one side has the whole truth, or is always right, so would it kill these guys to say so?

    1. Amen my friend.

      Spin is really another word for lying, and so many of us are fed up being lied to

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